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New Post 5/13/2008 4:51 PM
User is offline John Eastis
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Infield training 

In our ministry we have found that training disciples and making disciples are done at the same time. Those that are not saved in the mission field watch everything that we are doing, from our time of prayer when we arrive, handing out cold waters, talking to them, building relationships and inviting them to eat pizza with us and hear the gospel message. So now when they hear and accept the gospel message the initial process of training is already ingrained in them.

Those that have accepted Christ have a deep passion to see others in their family and local community circle come to Christ. It is this passion we try to harness and use as soon as possible on the mission field with training from a coach on the ministry team. What is vitally important to note is that the coach is there to encourage, answer questions, pray with and for his disciple.

God seems to use the new Christians experience in sharing with others as a great training ground for them. They are on the field finding at each step the need that will make their testimony more effective such as living their faith out daily, reading and learning God’s Word, prayer time/building a relationship with God and fellowshipping regularly with others.

John & Annette Eastis

 
New Post 5/24/2008 6:31 PM
User is offline Jeff Krabach
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I have to say that the church has missed the idea of training by sending the would be pastors to seminaries and such.  I like what John is saying it is about training them in the field.  Apprenticeships still exist in trades and are very effective in teaching people how to do their trade (boilermaker, elevator repair, caprentry, etc.) but we have moved to a head knowledge world for pastors that seems to do an effective job of isolating the pastor from the people.  The few pastors I have worked with have no clue how to mentor another person who desires to be a pastor and are intimidated by the idea.  In my little time of learning though I have seen that men who understand this (like John Horning (Missionary Church Pastor and Fred Shaw (mentor of min in WA)) have a huge impact on you even if they did or did not intend to.  I think we have to move to a place as the church of training leaders in field as John writes.  You know like Moses did to Joshua.  A speaker pointed out that Joshua never trained up the next big leader and after him came the period of the Judges.  So in this our failure to train leaders we might be finding ourselves in the Judges again, something to chew on.  But I would say that in field training is nothing more than sharing your ministry with someone else.  Letting them in on the daily grind.  Developping a relationship with them.  As John states in field training should be part of the discipleship process.  If it is not then I think we need to question our discipleship.  Hebrews 5:11-14 states "11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn.12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil."  From my understanding this was not written to pastors but to everyone.  Maturity and the ability to teach the truth is something we are all responsible for and Ephesians 4:11-16 points that it is the responsibility of the body to build up the body. 

 
New Post 6/2/2008 2:43 PM
User is offline Greg Getz
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Good thoughts on the AUDIENCE and the OPPORTUNITY of discipling, but what are your thoughts on the subjects of discipling. I like what John said about the OPPORTUNITY (infield) and what Jeff said about the AUDIENCE (everyone..not just pastor). But what should Joshua have focused on to prevent the period of the judges?

Also, it seems that if you are working with your disciples (pre and post-salvation) that is a world different than working with people who are the fruit of someone's evangelism, but not their discipleship. If we are woking with people to disciple them and we want to see them quickly engaged in sharing their faith and taking leadership in another's spiritual growth, what do we need to front-load them with? What do we need to keep passing down as they progress?

I don't want to be formulaic with this, but I do want to be thorough, intentional, and customized to the person.

 
New Post 6/6/2008 11:31 AM
User is offline John Eastis
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We are still praying about the answer to the question Joshua and the judges. However, here is a response to your question about what should be front-loaded.

A good friend of ours recently sent us a devotional article from BIOLA University, it was about the next Roman emperor that followed Constantine. Constantine was the one who turned Rome on its head and brought Christianity into the mix of all its other pagan religions. Christianity became the major religion of the Roman culture.

The next Roman emperor was Julian who rejected Jesus and wanted to revert back to paganism. In the article it stated, Julian stopped to look at how and why Christianity became so predominate in the Roman culture. He ascertained that Christians loved unconditionally and this was done in a manner not just to each other but also to those that did not believe. They brought help, food, support of all kinds to the world around them. But most of all, they brought God’s love and that was reflected in the way they lived.

As we move into the world and continue loving others as we love ourselves as Christ taught, we will see a passion in people being front loaded with something that will make a difference in this world.

Fruits of the spirit....God pointed out to us that LOVE was the most important.

As Christ had shown us .......even at the last meal he had with the disciples he loved them unconditionally. He wanted to teach that love in a practical and powerful way. He became a servant and washed their feet even the disciple who was to betray him that evening. Following this makes permanent change in peoples lives.

 
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